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E91 probém se obrysovým světlem
E91 probém se obrysovým světlem
Nazdar chlapy. Mám problém s polovinou zadního světla u E91 před FL. Měl jsem zkratované kabely mechanik to opravil ale presto to nesvítí. Jinak couvací a mlhové světlo svítí. Je to část kufrová. Nesvítí mě obrysové světlo. Kde by mohl být problém? musí se to nějak přes diagnostiku odblokovat? Nebo mohl se poškodit nějaký modul? Poraďte mě prosím.
Re: E91 probém se obrysovým světlem
nejspíš zablokovaný. Protože jsi to dlouho ignoroval.
Re: E91 probém se obrysovým světlem
Tak že stačí odblokovat přes origo diagnostiku?
Re: E91 probém se obrysovým světlem
Toto by me velice zajimalo. Resim uplne to stejne na stejnem aute, dle mechanika je asi v haji nejaka ridici jednotka, v kabelech to pry neni, ale cert tomu ver. Jinej mechanik mi zas rika, ze to bejt nemusi a ze to bude hledani jehly v kupce sena, at to neresim nebo tam zabrecim.
Re: E91 probém se obrysovým světlem
Mechanik nemel origo diagnostiku, no tak nevim jedina sance u nekoho to napichnut a vyresetovat FRM modul. Bylo me receno na foru. Puvidne byl skrat v kabeláži ale je to opravene a stale to nesviti.
Re: E91 probém se obrysovým světlem
Někdo to umí odblokovat. Máš zablokovanou větev, proto to nesvítí.
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Re: E91 probém se obrysovým světlem
Zkus to přes Tool32.exe, návod v angličtině níže:
If the FRM detect to many short curcuits then it simlpy turn off the output for the lamp causing the short curcuit and give a short curcuit error.
Even if the short curcuit isn´t there anymore the lamp will not work until you reset the counter.
With this tool you can reset the short circuit counters in FRM modules.
But you can do it also with Tool32
1.)Open Tool32
2.)Select prg file for your FRM and press F5
3.)Select status_lampen_kurzschluss_counter
4.)find counter >0
5.)Select steuern_reset_kurzschlussabschaltung and with argument insert number of lamp short circuit and press F5
6.)Have fun
With Tool32:
Connect cable to your car, launch Toolset32 and load FRM70.prg (for FRM2).
- In the window called Select job: FRM_70, select the job status_lampen_kurzschluss_counter. In the list Results select job_status and the lamp output which is shut off due to short circuit protection.
- Send the job to the car using the F5 key. You should get an answer in the Results window and the COUNTER value should be > 0. If COUNTER is = 0 then you didn't select the right lamp output. Try finding the one(s) which have COUNTER > 0. You will look at this value later to see if the short circuit reset-job actually worked.
- Now, switch job to steuern_reset_kurzschlussabschaltung. Notice that this job requires one (1) argument: lamp_nr. Lamp_nr is a number 0-255. Enter the lamp_nr to clear in the Arguments list and select job_status under Results.
- Send the job using F5. Make sure you get an answer OKAY in the Results window.
Note: I don't know the mapping between each lamp and lamp_nr, so I simply sent the command 64 times for all lamp_nr from 0 to 63. Try this - I guess it can't do any harm. Since lamp_nr is supposed to be an integer, I guess possible values for lamp_nr are 0-255.
When you have sent kurzschlussabschaltung-commands for all lamp_nr, do the first job again (check COUNTER). If everything is good, the counters which were > 0 before should now be = 0.
There are two jobs which are named quite similar - steuern_lampen_kurzschlussabschaltung and _reset_kurzschluss_sperre. I don't know the difference between these two, but if one doesn't clear your counters, I would try the other one too. Both jobs require the lamp_nr-argument.
Actually you can find out lamp number in the tool32 itself. After you open FRM70.prg file, you get the window called Tabellen-info. There is a table selection box, if you choose LAMPNRTEXTE in it (name may differ slightly for different prg files) you will get full list of lamps (unfortunately for me in german), where you can find out the correct output number without trying all possible combinations. Then you can do the resetting without guessing the output number, just input the LAMPNR value into argument box (numbers are in hex so you will need to enter them exactly as 0x00 or convert to decimal).
Fastest way to find that entry is to press first letter of its name on keyboard (in this case L) when you click on that box. You will have to press L some times, it will go though all tables starting with L. I have attached a screenshot showing that table.
Although that table is available immediately after you load prg, I would strongly suggest that you look at it after actually connecting to a car and running an ident job once, as the data in the table changes depending on the actual unit configuration.
Potom ještě existuje jeden prográmek, ale ten nemám vyzkoušený.
If the FRM detect to many short curcuits then it simlpy turn off the output for the lamp causing the short curcuit and give a short curcuit error.
Even if the short curcuit isn´t there anymore the lamp will not work until you reset the counter.
With this tool you can reset the short circuit counters in FRM modules.
But you can do it also with Tool32
1.)Open Tool32
2.)Select prg file for your FRM and press F5
3.)Select status_lampen_kurzschluss_counter
4.)find counter >0
5.)Select steuern_reset_kurzschlussabschaltung and with argument insert number of lamp short circuit and press F5
6.)Have fun
With Tool32:
Connect cable to your car, launch Toolset32 and load FRM70.prg (for FRM2).
- In the window called Select job: FRM_70, select the job status_lampen_kurzschluss_counter. In the list Results select job_status and the lamp output which is shut off due to short circuit protection.
- Send the job to the car using the F5 key. You should get an answer in the Results window and the COUNTER value should be > 0. If COUNTER is = 0 then you didn't select the right lamp output. Try finding the one(s) which have COUNTER > 0. You will look at this value later to see if the short circuit reset-job actually worked.
- Now, switch job to steuern_reset_kurzschlussabschaltung. Notice that this job requires one (1) argument: lamp_nr. Lamp_nr is a number 0-255. Enter the lamp_nr to clear in the Arguments list and select job_status under Results.
- Send the job using F5. Make sure you get an answer OKAY in the Results window.
Note: I don't know the mapping between each lamp and lamp_nr, so I simply sent the command 64 times for all lamp_nr from 0 to 63. Try this - I guess it can't do any harm. Since lamp_nr is supposed to be an integer, I guess possible values for lamp_nr are 0-255.
When you have sent kurzschlussabschaltung-commands for all lamp_nr, do the first job again (check COUNTER). If everything is good, the counters which were > 0 before should now be = 0.
There are two jobs which are named quite similar - steuern_lampen_kurzschlussabschaltung and _reset_kurzschluss_sperre. I don't know the difference between these two, but if one doesn't clear your counters, I would try the other one too. Both jobs require the lamp_nr-argument.
Actually you can find out lamp number in the tool32 itself. After you open FRM70.prg file, you get the window called Tabellen-info. There is a table selection box, if you choose LAMPNRTEXTE in it (name may differ slightly for different prg files) you will get full list of lamps (unfortunately for me in german), where you can find out the correct output number without trying all possible combinations. Then you can do the resetting without guessing the output number, just input the LAMPNR value into argument box (numbers are in hex so you will need to enter them exactly as 0x00 or convert to decimal).
Fastest way to find that entry is to press first letter of its name on keyboard (in this case L) when you click on that box. You will have to press L some times, it will go though all tables starting with L. I have attached a screenshot showing that table.
Although that table is available immediately after you load prg, I would strongly suggest that you look at it after actually connecting to a car and running an ident job once, as the data in the table changes depending on the actual unit configuration.
Potom ještě existuje jeden prográmek, ale ten nemám vyzkoušený.
Re: E91 probém se obrysovým světlem
Někdo na Zlínsku????? Brno už mám typ ale abych nemusel tak daleko
Re: E91 probém se obrysovým světlem
No tak toto je velice zajimave. To musim proverit. Akorat ted nevim jestli to sam rozlousknu v aktualnim stavu. Puvodni machanik totiz toto reseni nevedel, rekl, ze je v coudu ridici jednotka a udelal napojeni svetla pres pojistku z vetve leveho zadniho svetla. Svetlo ted sviti, ale porad mi to pinka do paluvobky, ze ne. Jak ale asi spravne tusim, dokud se to nenapoji tam, kam ma, ani odblokovani dle navodu ted nepomuze.
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Re: E91 probém se obrysovým světlem
Lichtmodul (nebo FussRaumModul) si kontroluje odběrové (ohmické) poměry v jednotlivých větvích a podle toho pozná nefunkční žárovku (LEDku) - protože prostě bere méně proudu, než by měla. A pokud není závada, např. zkrat, dostatečně včas opraven, tak celou větev (kanál) zablokuje. Některé moduly se dají "opravit" tím odblokováním, některé NE, prostě to zkusit. Samozřejmě napřed musí být vše opraveno a elektrická instalace uvedena do původního stavu.
Re: E91 probém se obrysovým světlem
Přesně jak píše starML, bohužel mnoho novějších modulů nelze jednoduše odblokovat diagnostikou a musí se vyměnit a nakódovat. Mám jich tady hezkou hromadu...
Re: E91 probém se obrysovým světlem
Tak se zadarilo, nekdy pred vanoci mi to jeden mekanik odblokoval dokonce u nas ve meste a ikdyz rikal, ze to byl porod (vratit hardware do puvodniho stavu, nekdo pred nim se v tom hrabal), chyba je opravdu pryc. Rikal mi, ze se to zablokuje nejak pri 50chybach a ja jich tam mel 290.
Diky moc za radu, ma funkci auta malickost, ale uz mi to fakt pilo krev.
Diky moc za radu, ma funkci auta malickost, ale uz mi to fakt pilo krev.